The US30 pip calculator in Forex represents a Forex calculator that calculates the value of a US30 pip in the currency you want by defining following values:
- number of pips
- lot size used
- currency pair
- deposit currency
Why do you need US30 pip calculator?
You can calculate the value for a number of US30 pips. And that means for example if you have 100 pips as a stop loss or take profit set, then you can calculate how much that will be in terms of a currency you select.
How to use the US30 pip calculator?
Inside the US30 calculator you have several fields you need to fill with the data. And those are the number of pips, US30 currency pair, deposit currency and lot size. At the end you click the button Calculate and you get the value of US30 pip.
In this article I will show you all details you need to know about US30 pip calculator and what you can get with using it, why you should use it to speed up the process of calculating pip value and how to use it so you do not get confused when looking at pip calculator.
Read more: What is Pip Calculator
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US30 Pip Calculator Example
The best way to explain how the US30 calculator works is to show an example. I will make a few examples so you can see the difference in calculations.
NOTE: Very Important
When trading US30 or Indice like S&P500 it is important to know what is the contract size on trading platform.
What contract size means?
In Forex when you check the contract size it says that one standard lot is 100,000 units of base currency. So, the contract size for 1.0 lot is 100,000.
In Indices like US30 the broker will define what the contract size will be on the trading platform. So, they can define a contract size of 1.0 in MT4 not to be 100,000 units, but for example:
- 1.0 = 100 units or
- 1.0 = 1.00 units
So, when you make calculation of a pip value on US30 or any other Indice where 1.0 is not equal to 100,000 units then you need to pay attention to this.
Let’s say a broker defines that the contract size is 1 unit. That would mean that 1 standard lot if you are trading in MT4 this would be
Volume = 1.0 = 1 unit
inside trading platform.
Take a look in the image above where you can see that IC markets broker has defined that a contract size in MT4 will be equal to 1.0 standard lot.
Second way how to define what is your broker contract size for the US30 is to go into the trading platform, MT4 or MT5, and then find the symbol under the Market Watch window with symbols list.
Click the right mouse button on the US30 and select Specification. This will open new window where all details for US30 symbol will be.
Inside this window you can find details about the symbol from the broker you are using.
You can see what is the Contract size and what is minimal volume available for trading.
For the US 30 the contract size is 1 which means 1 unit for a volume of 1.00.
This means 1 standard lot inside the MT4 will be 1 unit of a base currency and that is US30.
This will have influence on the US30 pip calculation. Let me show you that.
First example is when you have US30 currency pair with US30 as a deposit currency:
- Number of pips: 1
- Instrument: US30
- Lot size: 1.00 (100,000 units)
- Deposit currency: US30
- US30 pip size: 0.01
Second example is when you have US30 currency pair with USD as a deposit currency:
- Number of pips: 1
- Instrument: US30
- Lot size: 1.00 (100,000 units)
- Deposit currency: USD
- US30 pip size: 0.01
You can see that here you have examples where one contract is equal to 100,000 units, and not to 1 unit like IC markets broker has defined.
Here is an example how this would look with IC markets:
- Number of pips: 1
- Instrument: US30
- Lot size: 1.00 (1 unit)
- Deposit currency: USD
- US30 pip size: 0.01
How to Calculate Pips for US30
To calculate pips for US30 you need to use following formula which defines the pip value:
For deposit currency which is equal to base currency, US30:
Pip value = (Pip / Current market price) x Lot size
For deposit currency which is equal to quote currency, USD:
Pip value = Pip x lot size
US30 Pip Value
Now with the formula you have you need to use the first formula where the deposit currency is US30.
Pip Value for Base Currency
For deposit currency which is equal to base currency, US30, pip value will be equal to:
Pip value = (Pip / Current market price) x Lot size
Here are other data you need:
- Number of pips: 1
- Instrument: US30 = 32,859.56
- Lot size: 1.00 (100,000 units)
- Deposit currency: US30
- US30 pip size: 0.01
Now, when you put all the data in the formula you get:
Pip value = (Pip / Current market price) x Lot size
Pip value = (0.01 / 32,859.56) x 100,000
Pip value = (3.04e-5) x 100,000
Pip value(US30) = 3.04
What you can see here is that the value of a pip in US30 is equal to 3.04. But, the problem here is that your account deposit currency cannot be in US30. That means you cannot open a trading account with US30 by investing US30 as a currency.
To avoid this you would open a trading account with USD as a deposit currency. In that case you would use following calculation.
Pip Value for Quote Currency
For deposit currency which is equal to quote currency, USD, pip value will be equal to:
Pip value = Pip x Lot size
Here are other data you need:
- Number of pips: 1
- Instrument: US30 = 32,859.56
- Lot size: 1.00 (100,000 units)
- Deposit currency: USD
- US30 pip size: 0.01
Now, when you put all the data in the formula you get:
Pip value = Pip x Lot size
Pip value = 0.01 x 100,000
Pip value = $1,000
No matter what is current market price, if your quote currency (US30/USD), in this case is USD is equal to account deposit currency and that is USD, the value of a US30 pip will be equal to $1000.
And the condition is to use standard lot size, 100,000 units of base currency or 1.00 Lot.
Pip Value for Third Currency
Third case is when you have a US30 currency pair, but the deposit currency is EUR. Which is not US30 or USD.
This case requires that you make more calculations. If you use the US30 calculator then the whole calculation is done by the pip calculator.
But, if you want to do it manually, then you need to use the following process.
First:
- decide in which currency you will calculate the pip value. Will that be US30 or USD
Let’s use USD. The reason why to use USD is because we will ned EUR/USD pair price from the market to calculate US30 pip value in EUR.
If we would use US30 then we would need to find the US30 in EUR price which is not available online easily. Or we would need to make more calculation to get US30 pip value in EUR. And to do that it would make a lot of confusion for you.
The formula for the pip value will be:
- Number of pips: 1
- Instrument: US30 = 32,859.56
- Lot size: 1.00 (100,000 units)
- Deposit currency: USD
- US30 pip size: 0.01
Now, when you put all the data in the formula you get:
Pip value = Pip x Lot size
Pip value = 0.01 x 100,000
Pip value = $1,000
Second:
Now, you need to use the EUR/USD currency pair so you can extract EUR pip value from it.
Current market price for the EUR/USD = 1.09112. Which gives us EUR = 1.09112 USD.
This is the same as 1 EUR = 1.09112 USD.
So, the formula would be:
Pip value (EUR) = Pip value (USD) x (1/ EURUSD)
Pip value (EUR) = 1000 x (1 / 1.09112)
Pip value (EUR) = 1000 x 0.91649
Pip value (EUR) = 916.49
Pip Value for IC Markets Case
For deposit currency which is equal to quote currency, USD, pip value will be equal to:
Pip value = Pip x Lot size
Here are other data you need:
- Number of pips: 1
- Instrument: US30 = 32909.39
- Lot size: 1.00 (1 unit)
- Deposit currency: USD
- US30 pip size: 0.01
Now, when you put all the data in the formula you get:
Pip value = Pip x Lot size
Pip value = 0.01 x 1
Pip value = $0.01
No matter what is current market price, if your quote currency (US30/USD), in this case is USD is equal to account deposit currency and that is USD, the value of a US30 pip will be equal to $0.01.
And the condition is to use standard lot size, 1 unit of base currency or 1.00 Lot.
Here you can see an example from MT4 platform where I have open Sell order in MT4 with 1.0 standard lot.
Here are all details about the open order:
- Currency pair: US30
- Deposit currency: USD
- Lot size or Volume: 1.0
- Entry price: 32909.39
- Current market price: 32916.90
- Pip difference between entry and current price: 751 pips
So, I have open sell order where the current loss was 751 pips.
In the image you can see that the current loss is equal to $7.51
Let’s calculate US30 pip value for this example.
Here are other data you need:
- Number of pips: 1
- Instrument: US30 = 32909.39
- Lot size: 1.00 (1 unit)
- Deposit currency: USD
- US30 pip size: 0.01
Now, when you put all the data in the formula you get:
Pip value = Pip x Lot size
Pip value = 0.01 x 1
Pip value = $0.01
Pip profit or loss is equal to:
Pip profit/loss = $0.01 x 751 pips
Pip profit/loss = $7.51
Because my trade has loss 751 pips this would be $7.51 loss.
This is the way how you calculate US30 pip profit in case of IC markets with 1 unit of standard lot.
How Do You Calculate US30 Pip Profits?
With the above calculated you can calculate US30/USD, pip profit.
Let’s say you have an open SELL order on the market with the US30= 32,859.56.
And you want to close the trade at US30 = 32,858.56.
The price difference in pips is:
Pips = |Entry price – Exit price|
Pips = |32,859.56 – 32,858.56|
Pips = 100
You can see the difference is 100 pips between open and close price.
Pay attention to this when you make manual calculation.
Now, the profit for 100 pips is:
Profit = Pip value x Pips
Profit = $0.01 x 100
Profit = $1.00
If you want to use EUR as a deposit currency then the pip value is 0.0091649 EUR:
Profit = Pip value x Pips
Profit = 0.0091649 x 100
Profit = 0.91649 EUR
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